If it helps, over at the ServeTheHome forums there's a huge thread of people trying various PCIE cards and such. Not sure what's the policy here is for the links to other website, but if anyone wants to look for it, it's called "Minisforum MS-01 PCIe Card and RAM Compatibility Thread"
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Feb 01, 2024 5:02 am
Feb 01, 2024 12:26 pm
@diegomaniero yes the STH forum threads are a great resource with the number of ones testing and posting their results there 👍
Feb 14, 2024 8:51 am
Waiting for my order, but those efficient-cores still confuse me. :-).
People running ESXi on it, do you run it with efficient cores enabled or disabled. Any crashes except for the expected psod when running it with those cores enabled?
Feb 14, 2024 11:53 am
@tomvi Glad to have you on the forums! Just to clarify....having the efficient cores turned on does not cause PSOD, if you have the boot parameter in place. If you have made it persistent, you can have the P+E cores both enabled and it works as expected. Does this make sense? Let me know.
Feb 14, 2024 12:49 pm
@brandon-lee thanks for having me and for the clarification. 🙂
I'm aware you can get by the initial psod by having the setting persistant, just wanted to make sure if no other problems would present itself after running it for a while with both type of cores enabled. But I'm still in doubt if I shouldn't just disable them and use only the P cores with hypertreading.
So I was hoping someone on the forum may already have some experience and did some performance test with both E cores enabled and disabled.
Feb 14, 2024 5:49 pm
@tomvi No worries Tom. Glad to have you for your sure! I wouldn't say that I have done a true benchmark test between the two. But, so far, the MS-01 has been rock solid in any configuration I have tested. I had 41 Ubuntu servers running and then also used the S-TUI utility to create some synthetic load and left it running for a couple of hours without any issues. I have ran it over night with all 40 VMs running and all were healthy and no issues by the morning.
I will do some more testing on that front as well and let you know if I see anything out of place 👍
Feb 16, 2024 1:45 am
@brandon-lee cool! I'm going to do something similar when I finally receive mine before using it in "production" at home :-).
Feb 16, 2024 9:16 am
Regarding the hybrid cores, Craft Computing released two videos about the subject. In the first video, performance was "mixed bag" but the second video was a more thorough deep dive and in a situation where your hypervisor supports it, performance is very promising.
The TL;DW observation: In his testing, Proxmox v8+ using the Linux v6.5+ kernel did an amazing job putting tasks onto cores suited for the workloads demanded by the VMs. He did tests between Bare metal, CPU affinity (pinning VMs to P-Cores and E-Cores) and fully automatic, letting Proxmox handle choosing the best core. Hands down, Proxmox handling them automatically was faster than disabling the E-Cores or attempting manual CPU affinity settings for a VM.
Personally, I see the Minisforum MS-01 as a great "tiny-mini-micro" with a lot more flexibility than some of the 1L PCs on the used market and a cheaper option than buying equivalent spec 1L PCs brand new.
Feb 16, 2024 11:12 am
@t3hbeowulf I'm glad you mentioned this video. I watched this a few days ago as well and it is a great overview of the performance comparison in Proxmox between P+E and actually P+E seemed to perform better than the E cores disabled in the second video.
Jeff did mention he had to install a microcode firmware update in 8.1 for everything to run stable and smooth. Steps are here:
Microcode Install Instructions: 1) Install Proxmox 8.1 2) Add non-free-firmware to debian repo in sources.list - Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Add non-free-firmware to the 1st line so it looks like this--- - deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free-firmware 3) Save Changes 4) #apt clean && apt update 5) #apt install intel-microcode - The current version Debian has in the repo is 3.2023114.1~deb12u1 6) Reboot, and the microcode patch should apply automatically. 7) You can check what microcode you are running after reboot by grep 'stepping\|model\|microcode' /proc/cpuinfo
The video for that is here:
PART 2! - Proxmox on Intel's Hybrid Big Little - IT WORKS! (youtube.com)
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